238: The Hidden Cost of Leading Without Laughter | Greg Kettner
Release Date:
November 4, 2025
Release Date: Nov 1
Get ready for a powerful, laughter-filled deep dive into workplace happiness and mental health. In this episode of the Learn-It-All™ podcast, host Damon Lembi sits down with keynote speaker, sales expert, and Work Happy founder Greg Kettner, who shares how his experiences as a comedian (including a transformative encounter with Robin Williams) shaped his mission to make mental health an everyday leadership conversation. They unpack why burnout and loneliness quietly hurt even at the top, how humor unlocks trust and retention, and why leaders must prioritize empathy without losing their edge. Greg shows that creating a workplace where people really want to show up isn’t just about perks or pay—it’s about connection, authenticity, and small acts of kindness.
You’ll walk away with actionable tools to spark more joy at work, lead with vulnerability, and help your team not just chase happiness, but create it. Whether you’re a CEO, manager, or individual contributor, this episode offers hard-hitting advice and inspiring stories for anyone ready to build more engaging, human-first organizations.
What You’ll Learn:
Why empathy and vulnerability are leadership superpowers in today’s culture
How humor—with or without a joke-telling skill—creates trust and retention
The difference between chasing happiness vs. making space for “happier”
Concrete ways leaders can destigmatize mental health and foster psychological safety
Surprising ROI of prioritizing employee wellbeing (including retention and performance!)
The quickest way to turn around a bad day—and why serving others works
The untold dangers of loneliness for CEOs and founders—and how to build your support system
How to use time-blocking and positive rituals for daily mental health boosts
Why small moments of kindness change teams—and change lives
In This Episode:
00:00 – The CEO’s role in creating a fun, engaging culture
01:32 – Robin Williams’ advice—make people laugh, it's magical
02:09 – Greg’s transformative story with Robin Williams
07:52 – What would work look like if we were happier?
10:20 – When the grass isn’t greener: reflecting before leaving a job
12:28 – Why the goal is “happier,” not happiness—and how to get there
13:53 – “Put your mask on first”: Why leaders need their own support
16:50 – Serving others: the fastest way to boost your own mood
18:05 – How to create psychological safety for mental health at work
22:07 – Empathy, boundaries, and HR: how leaders walk the line
25:42 – Greg’s top happiness-building tools (and why to stop chasing “happy”)
27:52 – Meditation for leaders: starting small, practicing daily
29:52 – Time-blocking—and how to engineer “happy breaks” at work
31:18 – Stress is rising: how leaders can help teams cope
32:57 – Workshops, keynotes, and fun training for happier culture
35:58 – Ask your staff—what perks actually help make work joyful?
40:55 – Greg’s most rewarding mental health impact story
44:14 – Comedy and compassion: making a difference in tough moments
45:41 – Kindness, connection, and what leaders must do now
47:17 – 40,000+ strong: The Humor Lab community
About Greg Kettner
Greg Kettner is an acclaimed keynote speaker, workplace happiness advocate, podcast host, and the founder of Work Happy, an organization dedicated to helping leaders build mentally healthy and engaging workplaces. Leveraging his career as a professional comedian (opening for the likes of Robin Williams and Norm Macdonald), Greg now blends humor, stories, and research-backed tools to tackle loneliness, burnout, and disengagement—especially among leaders and their teams. His mission: making mental health a non-negotiable part of every workplace conversation.
